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	<title>Comments on: A Medical Mystery: Transferred Organ Donor Consciousness</title>
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		<title>By: nothere</title>
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		<dc:creator>nothere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Apr 2009 19:31:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dude, howabout citing some sources?</description>
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		<title>By: Robert Mulain</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robert Mulain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 15:54:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a simple explanation as to why this phenomenon exists, and what probably causes it. The clue is rhat it only occurs in some patients, and only seems to happen in cases when the donor has died. &lt;br /&gt;
To my great surprise (and I must admit, dismay)I recently discovered - accidentally - that I am clairvoyant. Being a scientist by education and trainig, and a cynical, demanding fellow by nature, I &#039;demanded proof&#039; that this was a real ability, as opposed to some mental malfunction or elaborate joke - that proof was provided, many times by now.&lt;br /&gt;
The medical profession officially classifies conciousness, memory and intelligence as neurological phenomena, which die and decay with the body when physical life expires. The &#039;good news&#039; for anyone unsure, is that death is not the end of existence, we all continue to &#039;live&#039; in another state, in a condition and &#039;place&#039; normally unseen and undetectable to most people.&lt;br /&gt;
This is not some religious argument requieing &#039;faith&#039;, it is a fact of nature and existence, which has been demonstrated and &#039;proven&#039; to be true countless times... even on TV nowadays. I don&#039;t need to say any more, just assure everyone that&#039;s the way it is and has probably always been - how or why it &#039;works&#039; is beyond me, it just does!     &lt;br /&gt;
I strongly suspect that this &#039;transplant&#039; phenomena is not caused by any mysterious, undiscovered medical or biological condition, but by a psychic link between the patient and the spirit of the deceased donor. If you examine the facts of cases carefully, and compare the experiences, feelings and descriptions given by orhan recipients, they are remarkably similar to those described by psychics and mediums, when first discovering their abilities.&lt;br /&gt;
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Its a complicated subject, but I am pretty sure this is the cause. Many people - maybe all? - have the ability to communicate so, without ever realising it. What is required to initiate and discover it is an unusual open-ness of the mind, and a strong connection to someone in the &#039;spirit world&#039;... I can think of no stronger way of connecting than having their heart inside you! Note the patients almost invariable wish to meet the relatives of their donor, and thank them. They are not &#039;possesed&#039; of course, merely connected - an entirely natural phenomena, which in time will become as accepted a &#039;scientific fact&#039; as radio waves, electricity and other invisible, unseen physical phenomena.        </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a simple explanation as to why this phenomenon exists, and what probably causes it. The clue is rhat it only occurs in some patients, and only seems to happen in cases when the donor has died. <br />
To my great surprise (and I must admit, dismay)I recently discovered &#8211; accidentally &#8211; that I am clairvoyant. Being a scientist by education and trainig, and a cynical, demanding fellow by nature, I &#8216;demanded proof&#8217; that this was a real ability, as opposed to some mental malfunction or elaborate joke &#8211; that proof was provided, many times by now.<br />
The medical profession officially classifies conciousness, memory and intelligence as neurological phenomena, which die and decay with the body when physical life expires. The &#8216;good news&#8217; for anyone unsure, is that death is not the end of existence, we all continue to &#8216;live&#8217; in another state, in a condition and &#8216;place&#8217; normally unseen and undetectable to most people.<br />
This is not some religious argument requieing &#8216;faith&#8217;, it is a fact of nature and existence, which has been demonstrated and &#8216;proven&#8217; to be true countless times&#8230; even on TV nowadays. I don&#8217;t need to say any more, just assure everyone that&#8217;s the way it is and has probably always been &#8211; how or why it &#8216;works&#8217; is beyond me, it just does!     <br />
I strongly suspect that this &#8216;transplant&#8217; phenomena is not caused by any mysterious, undiscovered medical or biological condition, but by a psychic link between the patient and the spirit of the deceased donor. If you examine the facts of cases carefully, and compare the experiences, feelings and descriptions given by orhan recipients, they are remarkably similar to those described by psychics and mediums, when first discovering their abilities.</p>
<p>Its a complicated subject, but I am pretty sure this is the cause. Many people &#8211; maybe all? &#8211; have the ability to communicate so, without ever realising it. What is required to initiate and discover it is an unusual open-ness of the mind, and a strong connection to someone in the &#8217;spirit world&#8217;&#8230; I can think of no stronger way of connecting than having their heart inside you! Note the patients almost invariable wish to meet the relatives of their donor, and thank them. They are not &#8216;possesed&#8217; of course, merely connected &#8211; an entirely natural phenomena, which in time will become as accepted a &#8217;scientific fact&#8217; as radio waves, electricity and other invisible, unseen physical phenomena.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank N Stein</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank N Stein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Dec 2008 07:07:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have had a liver transplant for 2 years, and i experience the same concious life that I did before. Sounds like the old phenomenom of possession in the reports of these people. Maybe fantasy prone. The mind-body is the vessel of the soul, but memories are stored in the brain. Hense amnesia.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have had a liver transplant for 2 years, and i experience the same concious life that I did before. Sounds like the old phenomenom of possession in the reports of these people. Maybe fantasy prone. The mind-body is the vessel of the soul, but memories are stored in the brain. Hense amnesia.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Dec 2008 21:25:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I watched an old disney channel show, So Weird. One of the last episodes in season 2 was about this subject. After watching the episode, i got curious and decided to reasearch a little bit. Very interesting. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I watched an old disney channel show, So Weird. One of the last episodes in season 2 was about this subject. After watching the episode, i got curious and decided to reasearch a little bit. Very interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: C Jordan</title>
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		<dc:creator>C Jordan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 14:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again you&#039;ve obviously looked into this very deeply to put such a strong case forward</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again you&#8217;ve obviously looked into this very deeply to put such a strong case forward</p>
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		<title>By: Glynis Smy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Glynis Smy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 14:30:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amazing facts! I was a nurse in theatre on one of the first transplants in the UK in the &#039;70s, it was a strange feeling, very sad but uplifting to know someone was going to live as well. Great article, you have a new fan!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amazing facts! I was a nurse in theatre on one of the first transplants in the UK in the &#8217;70s, it was a strange feeling, very sad but uplifting to know someone was going to live as well. Great article, you have a new fan!</p>
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		<title>By: Lauren</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lauren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 11:01:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They are able to convict a man based SOLELY on the evidence of an 8-year-old&#039;s vivid dreams? Hopefully that&#039;s a media exaggeration or that legal system is seriously in need of a tune-up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They are able to convict a man based SOLELY on the evidence of an 8-year-old&#8217;s vivid dreams? Hopefully that&#8217;s a media exaggeration or that legal system is seriously in need of a tune-up.</p>
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		<title>By: Judy Street</title>
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		<dc:creator>Judy Street</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 23:01:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>May 7th 1983 was a very sad day for us as our 16 year old second son committed suicide .  He had been diagnosed with Juvenile Rheumatiod Arthritis at the age of 10 in his loving letter to us he stated he was tired of all the pain and that we should give his organs to someone that could use them. His 2 kidneys and 2 iris&#039;s were given as in 1983 that was all they took. About 8 days after he died the hospital had a service at the chapel and my Mom and I went as we came down the hall I had the feeling of Clayton so over whelming I had goosebumps on my body. We went down another hall way and it was to much the sense of Clayton being near... made me shake all over .  My Mom asked me, what was the matter, there was an older gentlemen in a wheelchair by the exit door and I said that that man was connected to Clayton and as we walked by him I looked and his left eye had a patch on it.....That happened 25 years ago and I have not got the feeling that Clayton is at rest because he is not dead . It is a extremely uncomforting feeling....I WOULD NEVER ALLOW ANY ORGANS TO BE TAKEN AGAIN. You are right there is a life in the tiny atoms of our bodies. Judge me if you want-- but , we all have a time to live and a time to die.........Mother of Clayton Anthony Street a loving caring kid...... </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>May 7th 1983 was a very sad day for us as our 16 year old second son committed suicide .  He had been diagnosed with Juvenile Rheumatiod Arthritis at the age of 10 in his loving letter to us he stated he was tired of all the pain and that we should give his organs to someone that could use them. His 2 kidneys and 2 iris&#8217;s were given as in 1983 that was all they took. About 8 days after he died the hospital had a service at the chapel and my Mom and I went as we came down the hall I had the feeling of Clayton so over whelming I had goosebumps on my body. We went down another hall way and it was to much the sense of Clayton being near&#8230; made me shake all over .  My Mom asked me, what was the matter, there was an older gentlemen in a wheelchair by the exit door and I said that that man was connected to Clayton and as we walked by him I looked and his left eye had a patch on it&#8230;..That happened 25 years ago and I have not got the feeling that Clayton is at rest because he is not dead . It is a extremely uncomforting feeling&#8230;.I WOULD NEVER ALLOW ANY ORGANS TO BE TAKEN AGAIN. You are right there is a life in the tiny atoms of our bodies. Judge me if you want&#8211; but , we all have a time to live and a time to die&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;Mother of Clayton Anthony Street a loving caring kid&#8230;&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Sue Hickey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sue Hickey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 19:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I once read an SF story called &quot;The Assemblage of Kristin,&quot; where a group of young men and women received organs from the same young woman - a heart, ears, an eye, a hand, tongue, skin, even genitalia....Kristin&#039;s mother pleads for the recipients to come together once a month and make her daughter alive again because their donor body parts &quot;remember&quot; what the real Kristin did while alive. For esample, Kristin liked a certain movie star so the recipient would force herself to watch a movie with that star in it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I once read an SF story called &#8220;The Assemblage of Kristin,&#8221; where a group of young men and women received organs from the same young woman &#8211; a heart, ears, an eye, a hand, tongue, skin, even genitalia&#8230;.Kristin&#8217;s mother pleads for the recipients to come together once a month and make her daughter alive again because their donor body parts &#8220;remember&#8221; what the real Kristin did while alive. For esample, Kristin liked a certain movie star so the recipient would force herself to watch a movie with that star in it!</p>
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		<title>By: noel</title>
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		<dc:creator>noel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 20:56:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the ancient greeks believed that the heart was the seat of thought; the brain was merely an organ for cooling the blood. i would be inerested to know if there are any categories in this phenomenon; eg, the girl who changed her blood type after transplant may perhaps be experiencing a different thing from the more emotional/aesthetic/psychic implications of many of these anecdotes (and the prural of anecdotes, to quote ben goldacre, is not data. the chinese study sound invaluable; it will quickly tell us if we have a measurable phenomenon here or not, assuming it&#039;s done properly. and why organs specifically? could we find this experience in anyone who has had a blood transfusion from a single donor? curious business.&lt;br /&gt;
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noel</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the ancient greeks believed that the heart was the seat of thought; the brain was merely an organ for cooling the blood. i would be inerested to know if there are any categories in this phenomenon; eg, the girl who changed her blood type after transplant may perhaps be experiencing a different thing from the more emotional/aesthetic/psychic implications of many of these anecdotes (and the prural of anecdotes, to quote ben goldacre, is not data. the chinese study sound invaluable; it will quickly tell us if we have a measurable phenomenon here or not, assuming it&#8217;s done properly. and why organs specifically? could we find this experience in anyone who has had a blood transfusion from a single donor? curious business.</p>
<p>noel</p>
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