Hybrid Spider Goats

What do you get when you cross a spider with a goat? It sounds like it should be the start of a joke, but the spider goat project reflects just one of many disturbing genetic hybridisation projects.

You have heard of Spiderman and spider monkeys; fans of the cartoon “The Simpsons” will even have seen spider pig – but my question is… have you ever heard of a spider goat?


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Genetic scientists have incorporated selected spider DNA into goat embryos to engineer a hybrid spider goat – and here’s why….

Spiders can produce an amazing substance, highly desirable, more valuable than gold – that substance is SPIDER SILK.

We all walk past webs every day, never giving them a second thought but those webs are constructed by an incredible material. Next time you see one, consider the following facts:-

Spider Silk

• Is five times stronger (weight for weight) than steel
• Can be stretch by a factor of up to 40% without snapping or losing integrity
• Does not decay, dry out or become brittle over time
• Is completely immune to microbial and fungal degradation
• Is completely waterproof
• Is extremely light in relation to its strength.
• Is compatible with the human body in terms of the reproduction of biological tissues such as tendons or ligaments

Human applications for spider silk would be limitless, yet, despite access to a wealth of highly advanced scientific technology, artificial reproduction of spider silk has proved to be impossible.
Recent advancements in the field of genetics have opened a pathway towards attainment of this “holy grail” of materials.

Nexia Biotechnologies in Quebec along with scientists at the U.S. Army’s Soldier Biological Chemical Command (SBCCOM) in Natick, Mass have taken the specialised silk producing gene from a spider and inserted it into a goat embryo.

The result is a goat……that looks like a goat, acts like a goat, BUT produces milk which contains proteins which, when treated, produce a very close imitation of the valuable spider silk.
A single goat only produces small amounts of the desired material, so an extremely large herd is required to acquire useful quantities.

Ethics

Genetically engineered spider silk may be an extremely valuable and useful material – but – the issue of ethics and morals cannot be ignored.

From a moral perspective – We have all seen tremendous leaps in technological capability within our lifetimes – but – should planetary supremacy entitle the human race to inflict inhumane, unnatural acts upon any sub-intellectual life-form for financial gain? When the same question is asked in relation to medical advancement it becomes a very difficult question to answer easily.
From a religious perspective – Genetic Engineering could be compared to playing God.

Interestingly, Gregg Braden, revealed in his book “The God Code”, that after twelve years of research, a message could be found within all DNA. When translating DNA’s chemical sequencing into letters – the phrase “God/Eternal within the body” were de-coded. Could altering the potentially sacred DNA code be tantamount to blasphemy?

Like it or not, we now stand at the dawn of an age of scientific genetic revolution – scientists are steaming ahead with new experimentation in this field; genetic modification, hybridisation, cloning – a quest for knowledge and control… but to what end?

The wider long term effects and implications of the current applications of genetic modification of food, animals and even human life are not yet known.

Who knows what future choices genetic engineering will offer us? Who’s to know where the moral boundaries are, when to stop – or who, ultimately will make those ethical decisions and regulate procedures?

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  1. C Jordan Says...

    On February 11, 2009 at 7:51 am

    A well written, fascinating article.


  2. nutuba Says...

    On February 11, 2009 at 8:54 am

    Wow, this is interesting and very well written. The ethical questions are fascinating here. And think of the possibilities … goats everywhere, spinning webs, hanging down from trees … :-) (kidding). Seriously, this is a well done article!


  3. catlord Says...

    On February 11, 2009 at 8:59 am

    “….Gregg Braden, revealed in his book “The God Code”, that after twelve years of research, a message could be found within all DNA. When translating DNA’s chemical sequencing into letters – the phrase “God/Eternal within the body” were de-coded….”

    Wow… really? And would this in what language…English? :-D -Just curious and want to know more about this. Sounds little hyped to me, truth be told. At least the experiment (cloning spider/goat DNA) makes more sense than a similar clone done with human cells and …tobacco! What possible purpose could this unholy crossing of DNA possibly hope to achieve I wonder? :-D

    GREAT article!! Hope it does well! :)


  4. s hayes Says...

    On February 11, 2009 at 9:10 am

    Hi Stickman – The languages in “The God Code” were Hebrew and Arabic apparently – using the universal language of mathematics -

    I’m glad you spotted this info – I found it interesting (although as you would assume, many critics have pulled his book to pieces) – but it provides one extreme viewpoint regarding DNA so it was exactly what I wanted for this blog.

    This topic in itself would make an interesting blog – why not take up the mantle Stickman !!!


  5. Reilley Says...

    On February 11, 2009 at 9:39 am

    Very intriguing and thought provoking article. Well done indeed!


  6. Ruby Hawk Says...

    On February 11, 2009 at 7:12 pm

    Now that sound weird to me. I don’t think I ever want to see a spider goat.


  7. Kevin Says...

    On February 12, 2009 at 9:00 am

    Why can’t we ignore ethics and religion? and how they compare that to playing God…I just dont see it


  8. Mr. President Says...

    On February 12, 2009 at 9:40 am

    Didn’t one of our fore-fathers say, “Let’s keep church separated from state?” Ohh, I was never good in history. Well, I have to poop. Can someone rip a piece of the constitution up for me?


  9. Mark Bentley Says...

    On February 12, 2009 at 11:58 am

    Really interesting stuff! I am also a little sceptical about finding lost messages in our DNA… It sounds a lot like saying that if you analyse enough DNA sequences, you can find “God wuz here” in ancient Symarian. Neat article though.

    Now I have this image of a goat going down main-street ala spiderman stuck in my head though!


  10. A Rational Human Being Says Says...

    On February 12, 2009 at 2:11 pm

    I cant believe in this day in age we are still talking about mythical creatures! God….What are you guys retarded! Why don’t all of you mindless God loving moron’s start focusing some of your energy and brainpower on tangible things…..how about our failing economy…how about political injustice all around the world….how about murder and rape….why don’t you idiots start caring about things that are really going on in the world and not some fairy tale! God doesn’t exist and if he does then shame on him for being awful at his job!


  11. s hayes Says...

    On February 12, 2009 at 2:43 pm

    A rational Human Being – You make a good point !

    There seems to be a growing camp of atheism – part of a bigger agenda I believe – (they are even making their point on the sides of the buses in the UK)

    The genetic engineering article is more about ethics and morals than God ( “the God Code” was just one extreme point of view inserted to make a point)

    I think that the issue of ethics and morals is highly relevent in all the points that you have rightly brought to the fore.
    The economic crash – manipulated and manufactured by unscrupulous bankers who would sell everyone down the river for the mighty dollar. desire and greed without morals or ethics.
    The same can be said in any case of political injustice.
    This is a very tangible problem – a human sickness.

    Is God a mythical creature?

    I am not a religious person, but I know that the concept of God means something different to everyone – it is not that easy to sweep aside.

    There is however an undeniable difference between good and bad – somewhere along the way the lines have become too blurry – If religion has done one good thing it is to attempt to deliniate a moral code – draw a moral line in the sand.


  12. Louie Jerome Says...

    On February 12, 2009 at 3:06 pm

    An excellent article which, going by some of the comments above, evoked some strange (and to my way of thinking illogical) responses. A good read and certainly food for thought.


  13. John N Says...

    On February 12, 2009 at 11:18 pm

    …that is awesome… the title makes me think of an actual spider-goat, but a goat whos milk can be transformed into KINDA the same thing as spider silk – is pretty cool too.

    Also, i don’t care if it’s unethical or not, i am the first to sign up when they want human test subjects….i have wanted to be spiderman my whole life, and if I can’t become the wall-crawler…maybe my kids can be… (awesome!)


  14. Christian Says...

    On February 14, 2009 at 4:20 am

    single cell organisms evolved into every living creature on earth hahahaha. Gases formed beautiful planets and oceans and forests on their own.Then everything on our planet is made to work in harmony with one another. The probability of all this occurring is impossible to achieve without a creator who has wisdom and knowledge. You can hide from your creator, but not for long. Choose wisely in your beliefs as life is very short.


  15. NHF Says...

    On February 14, 2009 at 8:57 am

    I agree there’s a massive ethical debate when it comes to playing God, but didn’t God give us the right to ‘And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.’


  16. Damon Says...

    On February 14, 2009 at 3:34 pm

    Here’s the deal… pertaining to the “God code.” if you are looking for a pattern within numbers and sequences… you will find one. search “Bible Code.” they take the whole book a genesis and look for hidden meanings in it… and they find them… no surprise… then a group of different scientists ran the same test with the book moby dick… and received the same results…

    The uses of the spider silk are really limitless… from the health aspect to clothes that will not break down… just imagine a shirt resistant to ripping, water proof, and wont be worn out…

    But God is God and science is science and the proverbial town isn’t big enough for the both of them… thats why they’ve been separated… Religion is faith in the face of the unknown… and science is figuring out the unknown…

    i say just as long as the goats aren’t mistreated keep on going with the system.


  17. Damon Says...

    On February 14, 2009 at 3:41 pm

    oh and one more thing… there is no such thing as impossibility… as long as the time line is long enough, the possibilities are endless. its just the fact that things can and most often are very improbable… the history of the universe is unknown and only speculated at… but when you’re looking at a time line spanning billions of years(which is a time that we can only imagine to comprehend) things that seem impossible happened merely by chance, and that fact is often hard to come to terms with… but to break it down… that fact that the person you are today was a 1 out of 3,000,000 chance of happening… at the moment of conception 1 little spermy out of an army of them made you who you are… hell there was a 50% chance of you being the opposite sex. think about that when contemplating probability.

    again, over a long enough span of time anything can, and most likely will happen, such as this miracle we call existence.


  18. d4m4s74 Says...

    On February 15, 2009 at 7:30 am

    one takes a monkey
    a keyboard and a computer

    one lets the monkey hammer away on the keyboard

    you get a string of random letters and numbers (or just one milion of the same symbol)

    you can “decode” that to anything:
    “God/Eternal within the body”
    “Spiderpig, spiderpig, does whatever a spiderpig does”
    “SATAN WAS HERE”
    “I iz mokey”
    etcetera.


  19. Patrick Bernauw Says...

    On February 15, 2009 at 7:37 am

    Awesome!


  20. ebazaar Says...

    On February 15, 2009 at 8:30 am

    The whole thing just reminds me of a scene in LOTR 3 – without the goat though.
    However, this is a very well-written piece. Call me me outdated but I was never even into cloning in the first place. God has plan for all of us, whether you like it or not.


  21. Kim Buck Says...

    On February 15, 2009 at 9:01 am

    I don’t support cloning — it appears unnatural to me. Good write, thanks for sharing.


  22. GERARD Says...

    On February 15, 2009 at 9:24 am

    To a rational human being says:

    Sorry, i can’t put your title in capital letters because it is not appropriate for you…

    have you been ever so right in all your judgements? Did you not make mistakes on your entire life? If you are not a MORON by yourself…then i assumed you are perfect and probably the richest and most powerful man on earth…

    So you want to focus all your energy on this sick world? Then I pity you, because someday you will die, and all your works to gain tangible things will be meaningless by time you go six feet under….

    Funny, you wrote “God….What are you guys retarded!”…you don’t believe in God, but here you are, calling out God’s name. Such an inconsistent person you are…

    Matthew 12:31-32 And so I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.

    Who’s the retarded now?


  23. Lostash Says...

    On February 15, 2009 at 12:04 pm

    Interesting article and interesting responses to it….quite a debate. As for ‘Rational Human Being’….I have to agree with what he has to say. I may have worded it a little differently, as I respect anybody’s personal beliefs, but I can’t see how anyone can believe in a Supreme Being when we view the state of our planet and the people who live on it.



  24. cheeeeeelaaaaaax wellgate 187 lockdown killer Says...

    On February 15, 2009 at 3:57 pm

    wag 1 blud, this story is mad init!!!!!!!!!

    wagwanin sik spiderman goat make me some milk dude!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    innit blud from anoder mud….a

    kk thats enough of the micky take back to the point lol, genetic engineering has made many scientific leaps in recent years however, it is still daunted by many loop holes and inacuracies which are costly, both economical and social.

    Take dolly the sheep as an example, a sucessful clone? yes/no?, a clone yes, but died at the age of 6 with arthiritis, cancer and signs of premature ageing? sucessfull genetic engineering u may ask? i highly doubt it

    and jsut to tell u wag 1 blud means hello in slang term lol, youth ftw!!!!!


  25. Damon Says...

    On February 15, 2009 at 7:25 pm

    the reason the goat died at the so called age of six is because our concept of age is based upon the generally accepted birth cycle…

    imma preface this then get to my point… i need to explain a little background for those who need the simple terms.

    every cell in everything living has its very own biological clock. everything… from plant cells, to animal, to bacteria… every single cell that comprises any living being has a clock… these clocks we cannot control… hence… death… when the clock runs out, its host dies… different cells have different time spans, and they last different amounts of time. in every living being cells are constantly dieing and being um… born, or replicated, or if you want to get technical going through cellular mitosis(the splitting, and thus birth of cells).

    When you clone an organism you clone its cells. in essence you make an exact copy… you all know what cloning is. and since everything is an exact copy, the time clocks on the cells do not change. the “Premature aging” isnt premature at all. the cells simply just pick up where their clocks were copied. even though the cloned goat started off as an embryo, was born, was a baby, and then grew up. the cells all started off being just as old as the original goat.

    example. you take a goat, average life span of around 10 years… you clone the goat when it is four… if both goats lead the exact same life with no difference in anything… eating the same amount, pooping the same amount, relaxing the same amount, and stressing the same amount, the goats will die at the same time… but since every organism goes under different stresses… even twins die at different times… unless they die in the same accident…

    thats why the cloning process is imperfect.we may be able to make copies of everything, but we cant deny the time of existence.


  26. Chambo Says...

    On February 15, 2009 at 8:35 pm

    The is totally wrong. You cant mess with nature and expect everything to be okay. Nice work S Hayes.

    RJ


  27. Darlene McFarlane Says...

    On February 15, 2009 at 10:29 pm

    This is fascinating but I have to agree with RJ, I believe it is wrong. It’s like science fiction taking on Mother Nature and expecting to get away with it.

    Very interesting article though and well presented.


  28. Omorose Says...

    On February 16, 2009 at 1:11 am

    Wow! That’s not something you read about everyday!

    Here’s an article to take a look at!
    http://www.quazen.com/Recreation/Crafts/Fun-and-Inexpensive-Craft-Ideas.525465


  29. Anne McNew Says...

    On February 16, 2009 at 3:10 am

    I don’t go for cloning but I like your presentation in this article.


  30. Shari86 Says...

    On February 16, 2009 at 6:48 am

    Very interesting and well written article which has provoked some strong debate. I think anyone who rushes to critcise the article for bringing religon into a discussion on DNA manipulation hasn’t read your work closely enough. You make it quite clear that you are examining several ethical quandries which are associated with gene splicing, which is a sign of good journalistic intentions, not religious zealotry.
    Good work in giving a lot of people food for thought, whatever their previous views.


  31. The Druid Shaman Says...

    On February 16, 2009 at 11:31 am

    Thank you for sharing such an interesting article, well written and very well presented.


  32. mna Says...

    On February 16, 2009 at 2:22 pm

    Although I think the existence of a creator is inconsistent with experience and logic, because of the complexity of genetics and how small things can cause chain reactions due to the unified network of our biosphere, tampering with something that took millions of years to arrange itself could have negative consequences.

    P.S. Qouting the bible as a source of truth is one of the most ridiculous things I\’ve seen. People should treat acquisition of knowledge and truth as an independent venture; accepting only what is logically coherent with evidence that is presented to us through our subjective experience. Following the status quo for its own sake defeats any progress in attaining truth, and religion has proven to be a useful tool for controlling those without independence and a will to survive.


  33. Fenrir Says...

    On February 16, 2009 at 2:23 pm

    Sanity…

    Right on man!


  34. Albertarocks Says...

    On February 16, 2009 at 2:54 pm

    You wouldn’t want to see a spidergoat Ruby Hawk? What about drinking spidergoat milk? Think about all the magic you could weave every time you take a leak!


  35. Melody SJAL Says...

    On February 16, 2009 at 10:12 pm

    This is indeed like playig God. Thanks for this interesting article.


  36. A Rational Human Being Says Says...

    On February 17, 2009 at 11:44 am

    “Sanity” has said it best and “Gerard” has said it the worst. Because of people like Gerard religious hate crimes persist to this day. Because of people like Gerard we live in a society that believes we are all eventually going to heaven or hell. Because of people like Gerard our country is quickly forcing out intelligent and hardworking scientists all across the nation. Gerard you should be ashamed of yourself and what you represent. The world will be a better place when it is rid of people like you. Religion is not the enemy, God is not even the enemy, but hateful and ignorant religious people who will silence or kill anyone who opposes them are the true enemies. If God does exist let me assure you that he/she/it would be ashamed of you and everyone like you. You think you are close to God, you are the lowest life form on earth. I hope you will one day learn to be more tolerant and understanding, more logical and less judgmental, and eventually become a better human being.


  37. maranatha Says...

    On February 17, 2009 at 1:54 pm

    Wow! The debate is as good as the article! Couple of points… 1) God has been proven to exist personally over and over and over again. The Bible has been proven (except, of course, for future prophecy) historically, archaeologically, etc. There is more historical evidence and recorded eyewitnesses of Jesus’ life, death, and resurrection than of my own birth! so it’s not a fairy tale.
    2) God states repeatedly that He will not butt in where He is not wanted. The Earth is ours to care for. Our lives are ours to live. He will only interfere when asked.
    3) We as humans have the right to anything we want with nature. But what we CAN do, isn’t necessarily what we SHOULD do. There’s that pesky responsibility factor again.
    4) I find it fascinating that this article’s one line including the name of God evoked such a thoroughly hateful response. Are all atheists so emotional?
    5) By the way, scientists are not being forced out, but more and more are convincing themselves that their research proves the logical existance of a supreme creator, whoever that might be!
    5) Great article, I really did enjoy it! I, too, have reservations about the long-term changes and their effects.


  38. Stacey T Pollock Says...

    On February 17, 2009 at 2:03 pm

    Wow fascinately article. I hate to think how such a creature would look, or whether it could actually survive with such changed characteristics.

    If you see a goat in the future spinning a web, beware!!! :)


  39. A Rational Human Being Says Says...

    On February 17, 2009 at 2:27 pm

    Marantha you sound like a nice person but just a little bit naive! I don’t like to bash people but where do you come off saying “God has been proven to exist”. If it was that simple then there would be no argument! If God has been proven then show the proof to us. I think there is a big misunderstanding of Atheists and that is our want of God to “not exist”, but that could not be farther from the truth. I believe deep down that an Atheist is like any other spiritual being but there is one key difference, spiritual beings believe that a God exists and an Atheist doesn’t. This doesn’t mean though that we have any hatred of God cause we don’t believe in one. If an Atheist hates anything on this planet it is not the Religions of the world or all of the Gods ever constructed, it is all of the intolerant people in the world that abuse religion for their own personal benefit, those are the people that we hate. Marantha I hope that you act like a true person of God and spread messages of love, understanding and peace and please do not act like your fellow brothers and sisters throughout all of the religious institutions of the world and do not spread messages of hate, intolerance and ignorance.


  40. Ryan Says...

    On February 19, 2009 at 12:43 pm

    “Matthew 12:31-32 And so I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven men, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.

    Who\’s the retarded now?”

    This is precisely why no one should respect a religious person’s opinion.


  41. Ryan Says...

    On February 19, 2009 at 12:44 pm

    Edit: heavily religious person**


  42. Tinsley Says...

    On February 26, 2009 at 1:08 pm

    Alot of heated arguments on here.

    As far as Im concernd we have evolved over millions of years from natural selection to become the dominant species of the planet….As a species we seem to have no problem breeding animals over time to have the traits we want them to have..for example we breed pigs to be as fat as we can get them to increase the yeild of meat…Is that not interfering with the natural order of things?

    So whats wrong with tinkering with the genetics directly for our benefit like weve been doing for thousands of years ..take a look at the bigger picture.


  43. Sakuragi Says...

    On March 7, 2009 at 3:52 am

    What in the blue hell…….
    Humans…


  44. M J katz Says...

    On May 23, 2009 at 2:44 pm

    OMG…I’ve been laughing so much! This was not only an informative article but the responses are highly entertaining, too!! :)
    A Rational Human Being says he doesn’t like to bash people…and then goes on and on and on…bashing all who he disagrees with! Ha ha ha. I love this form of ‘Tolerance’…it speaks well for the opposition!!
    By the way, I’m not religious…and my spiritual views are my own.
    But I’m sure that if web material can be derived from this goat’s milk and then transformed into clothing that will last for years and years, the patent for this manufacturing idea will be sold for several million dollars to a company that WANTS clothes to wear out, and then we’ll never hear of it again…just like pantyhose that will not ‘run’ and vehicles that can run on water or vegetable oil.
    You can’t make money if people don’t need to buy more!
    I’m just glad that the goat didn’t sprout eight legs and have a penchant for drinking blood! :)


  45. Christopher Kim Says...

    On September 2, 2009 at 8:24 am

    Much to say as a response to this article:

    • Is completely waterproof

    That, in my opinion is not 100% accurate… H20 would definitely weaken the bonds within the spider silk molecule.
    water would slightly effect the ‘effectiveness of the silk’
    Also, there seems to be some kind of misconception of what a spider-goat really is. nothing near melding the physical concepts of the goat and spider together, but harvesting silk from the milk lactated from the goat.

    there is no ethical bounds regarding this…. it’s just using goats to mass produce something, which is in my opinion much more humane than trying to farm spiders.. which obviously does not work.


  46. chaogenus Says...

    On November 5, 2009 at 5:31 pm

    Disturbing, an ethical issue, a moral issue, inhumane, unnatural, blasphemy?

    Sorry but I didn’t see the part in the article where the animals suffered. Or is the real issue the bruised ego of the religious luddites. Just to put the issue in perspective many religious practices including those espoused in the bible include the slaughter of animals for sacrificial rights to the gods.

    There are approximately 3 billion base pairs in the 46 human chromosomes, anyone who wants to find their favorite pattern to prove their mysticism will have no trouble making the connection.

    Ophioglossum reticulatum has over 1200 chromosomes, you could probably find a novel in there.

    There will be situations where ethics and morals will need to be considered, but knee jerk reactions to every genetic experiment is foolish.

    Anyone who wants human knowledge to stand still should go live in a cave and try to restrain their need to force everyone else to live their idealistic god fearing life style.


  47. CitizenX74 Says...

    On December 7, 2009 at 1:02 pm

    Is it possible gods plan includes humanity doing things only god can do? just a thought


  48. Glen Says...

    On December 7, 2009 at 6:49 pm

    chaogenus…interesting. I could not agree more. “God” or “Creator” or (insert your favorite deity here) corrupts our ability to remain rational and logical. We are standing still and I have to wonder why. There seems to be too much energy of thought focused on the wrong things…it always seems that, whenever the going gets to tough (because of our own ignorance), we fall down and beg for help instead of trying to solve our own problems.

    Do I agree with crossing DNA of different species? Sure, so long as it does not involve cruelty, abuse or cause pain (even in “sub-intellectual” life). It has a benefit that can be explained.

    Will that new-found knowledge be used for only human benefit? Probably not. As the goat/spider project is funded by the military, you can bet the primary goal is to develop implements of war first. Then, as an afterthought, a medicinal breakthrough will appear (and someone will make an insane amount of cash).

    Sigh…we fight too much and use all the muscles except the right one to solve problems…


  49. Sangeetha Delampady Says...

    On December 22, 2009 at 1:04 pm

    Well that was an interesting read…
    I don’t think it’s morally wrong if it doesn’t inflict any pain/suffering on the animal (after it’s born). It’s worth trying out for the sake of research, but then I think it’ll be morally wrong if the animal has to suffer any defects or if the substance that it produces is used for money.


  50. Mike Says...

    On January 14, 2010 at 10:58 am

    Scientists want debate on animals with human genes

    « on: November 09, 2009, 10:22:54 PM »

    http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE5A900R20091110

    LONDON (Reuters) – A mouse that can speak? A monkey with Down’s Syndrome? Dogs with human hands or feet?

    …the end is near.


  51. sdfg Says...

    On January 14, 2010 at 2:27 pm

    This is really retarded.


  52. Lil wayne (young) Says...

    On January 22, 2010 at 10:05 pm

    Ya\’ll need to get real. Who gives a f**k what a goat can sh** out of its utters.


  53. Matt Says...

    On March 16, 2010 at 5:07 am

    So, I happen to be religous but am not going to comment on all the different view/points that have come up so far.

    I would like to point out the very slippery slope that these scientists are on though.

    First we start with Spider Pig and get all of these amazing products – cloths that dont wear, surgical items, waterproof coatings, ect. Then we think, ‘Hey! This is really great, its like we have the world at our fingertips. Why stop here? Lets make Turtle-Hawks!’. The benefits from such a creature are endless, what cant be gained by fusing two creatures together?

    Then the unthinkable happens. Unlike the physically unaltered goats, these creatures come out as armored hawks thirsty for the blood of the men who did this to them. These creatures majestic counterpart, the normal eagle, can lift mountain goats off the side of cliffs and fly away with them. Now think about the mutated armored horrors that have been created. Soon after their creation their vengeance would be taken, but their bloodthirst would not stop there.

    Please, imagine a world where your children cant play outside without fearing the dreaded turtle-eagle flocks. The same flocks who will cause death and destruction everywhere they go by lifting people high then dropping them down, or simply flinging themselves at high speeds at their target. Imagine that, scientists, and think of how our children will be affected.

    Just a thought, and a very serious one at that. Thank you for your time, and farewell.


  54. Hunter Says...

    On March 22, 2010 at 7:41 am

    Someone forgot to mention they have been doing this for years, and is where we get most of our Kevlar.


  55. Deviant Says...

    On March 30, 2010 at 4:49 pm

    It’s a shame, that people decide to judge others for their beliefs, personally I don’t believe in what you would refer to as ‘God’ and I think science is a much more logical and reasonable explanation to the world and wonders to come, apart from the fact that these ‘Spider Goats’ could eventually provide new kinds of protection, e.g. bullet proof jackets stronger than ever, it’s also a fascinating subject, now let’s be honest, if God does exist, it was stupid of him or her to give us free will, because science is now dominating the world, not religion, many fundamentalist Christians may say all science is going against God, but by that logic, God is against medicine and surgery, seems silly, hmm? Now all of you haters stop being so bashful and accept that actually, this is interesting, and could eventually be helpful.


  56. Mike Green Says...

    On April 23, 2010 at 6:55 pm

    To the writer of the article:

    “should planetary supremacy entitle the human race to inflict inhumane, unnatural acts upon any sub-intellectual life-form for financial gain?”

    Oh, please. Are you about to call for a ban on processed meat, and industrial milk production? You want inhumane treatment, all you need to do is to walk inside one of those buildings. Let’s just take the example of milk: Rows of cows hooked up to unnatural, strange looking machines to suck out their milk. They were artificially inseminated, not allowed to dry up after birth, themselves the product of artificial insemination and unnaturally selected by breeding to be the best milk producers. Some of them still have artificial growth hormone racing through their veins. They are fed a mixture of foods that they wouldn’t find in their native environment, including protein from other ground up animals. You so worried about the morally questionable issue there?

    And then you throw out the G card. What makes you assume everybody believes in a god, or that everybody agrees what that god wants?

    Bottom line, you’re just scared of the image in your head of two half-creatures put together that your imagination conjures, when there’s nothing of the sort being produced.


  57. Demonkitten Says...

    On April 26, 2010 at 11:45 am

    All religious implications aside, I must say all this human tampering with DNA and creating new creatures frightens me. Granted wonderful things may be created, but what of the things that go wrong? Yes the movies have done it over and over..Jurassic Park, etc. Stop to think though if this continues, the movies may become reality. Life imitating art. Then you have this guy..

    “Kevin Says…
    On February 12, 2009 at 9:00 am
    Why can’t we ignore ethics and religion? and how they compare that to playing God…I just dont see it”

    If we ignore ethics in everything we do, if there is no moral or ethical standard to follow, then we have anarchy,and any form of decency will be abandoned.
    Just because the technology is available, does not make it right to use it.


  58. jeremy Says...

    On May 9, 2010 at 8:35 pm

    I think God would approve


  59. mike Says...

    On June 29, 2010 at 1:25 am

    this is evil….. destroying the earths populace of alternative DNA, then what was originally approved by nature is sickening… one who uses eugenics from scientists in the past who ran with dictatorships is awful for the advancement of the science community should die… no one such animal should have co-dominant DNA such as spider genes, it destroys the gene pool of that community of animals in there habitat… making that of the goat spider an alien itself then from other animals… experimentations being done on humans making them inhumane of what they are is a step for globalization on a massive scale from scientific technology advancements… who here would now, want a third arm or eye making them a freak and people wanting them to die for how they look? not i… but anyone who volunteers for having mercury injected into their bloodstream as a rat in a cage at a FEMA camp can be my guest…. these people disrupting the natural breeding by useing other genes like a spider and putting them in the fetus of that particular animal would be disgusted by the people if they heard the truth of it most dont care most approve or dont know what the hell it is… but when it happens to someone if your family or friends then you\’ll know the horror…


  60. Korbl13 Says...

    On July 20, 2010 at 2:54 am

    What, precisely, is inhumane about genetic manipulation? What harm or cruelity are these goats undergoing? It\\\’s just a bit of a prick of a needle, and then the embryo progresses as normal. You make it sound as if scientists go in with chainsaws and axes to physically rip the genetic code apart and then stitch it back together like Victor Frankenstein.

    Why must everyone who speaks against science misrepresent it? If there\\\’s no moral quandry, don\\\’t create one. It\\\’s bad form, and it makes you seem untrustworthy.


  61. Concerned Citizen Says...

    On February 3, 2011 at 9:57 pm

    Who told them to do all these experiments with tax payer money? Did we the people ask or did they just assume we needed it and think and choose for us? Wake up people come on. They invent wonderful technologies and then keep it for themselves for as long as they can. They are not doing research and development on stuff like this for the average person.

    Artificial spider silk is for the elite, the Rockefellers in the world.

    If we allow ourselves to decide that those creatures are inferior and deserve no real life or freedom at great cost to this nations wealth; Any alien race can come to Earth and do the same to us because they would be superior in intellect.


  62. Jonny Says...

    On February 10, 2011 at 8:24 am

    No need to be concerned citizen, i think you need to lay off the drugs. It’s just the beginning, this stuff could end up in brollies, winter clothes, housing, new cures, preservation etc etc etc… it’s early days. too early for alarm bells to be ringing. Or maybe you just fear new technology, either way. i can’t see much of your tax ending up paying for this. and even if it did, it would be about 20p at max. Just chill out man.


  63. Jonny Says...

    On February 10, 2011 at 8:24 am

    No need to be concerned citizen, i think you need to lay off the drugs. It\’s just the beginning, this stuff could end up in brollies, winter clothes, housing, new cures, preservation etc etc etc… it\’s early days. too early for alarm bells to be ringing. Or maybe you just fear new technology, either way. i can\’t see much of your tax ending up paying for this. and even if it did, it would be about 20p at max. Just chill out man.


  64. Jabbra Says...

    On February 10, 2011 at 8:28 am

    wow, reading these comments all i see is, paranoia, technophobia, total misunderstanding of wat’s taking place, and total utter ignorance. People need to learn about what it is they are shouting about. The goat is pricked with a needle. end of. God isn’t real anyway, and if he was, how do you know he isn’t proud of our scientific advances?


  65. Jack Says...

    On August 13, 2011 at 7:18 pm

    Scary! it was bad enough with the killer bees they let loose. What will they turn loose on us next? I can just see some fly by night outfit doing something really bad with their experiments and not having any controls in place. Next thing you know we will have an unimaginable catastrophe on hand. Don\’t kid yourself they\’re playing like this with virus\’ and plagues too.


  66. Claire Says...

    On February 21, 2012 at 5:57 pm

    The actual goat just looked like a starved pregnant goat. I hope they are not just starving pregnant goats to produce the protein.


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